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I doubt anything comes of it, but here's hoping.

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[-] exu@feditown.com 144 points 2 weeks ago

If you're an EU citizen, please take the time to sign this citizen initiative to stop killing games. It could be our best chance of preventing such situations in the future.

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

[-] youTellMe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thor summarizes the problems with this initiative pretty well: https://youtu.be/ioqSvLqB46Y?si=QPjVZcV7zteBPpos

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 36 points 2 weeks ago

This guy's strawman arguments have already been destroyed by plenty of people who actually know what they're talking about and don't have an interest in keeping the current situation.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

No he doesn't, he creates strawman and fights them

[-] iaaudio@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 weeks ago

What a terrible take.

[-] Joelio@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

The guy who won't go 5 seconds without flashing his "20 years of service to Blizzard" badge also was dumbfounded at the possibility of people self hosting game servers like World of Warcraft, even though they've been doing it for years. Dude seems like a MASSIVE know it all.

[-] whithom@discuss.online 97 points 2 weeks ago

If they release something with paid content, I should get to have that paid content forever, or get a refund. 🤷‍♂️

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Cries in MMOs from 20 years ago.

[-] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Last week I downloaded Dark Age of Camelot which I have not played nor paid for 20 years, and my character was still there. I was really not expecting them to keep the data for so long without any payment.

[-] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

I understand why most companies wouldn't do that, but they should be forced to open-source online games that get shut down or otherwise made non-functional.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

At minimum they should provide copies of the software to anyone who paid a subscription, and then enterprising individuals would figure out how to get private servers running

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

Ok......4 hours of sleep a night is officially not enough. I've been awake for about 2 hours now, and read that as

Grandma sued for shutting down her crew.

[-] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

Username checks out

[-] DarkDiamondK@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Close enough

[-] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Reindeer begin keeping tabs on her whereabouts in response.

[-] vikingtons@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Out of curiosity, did anyone sue bungie for doing the same thing with destiny's Y1 & Y2 content?

I was one of those dumb bastards who bought the game and DLC back in 2017

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

It gets to be way harder to argue in court when it isn't a "clean kill", using Ross Scott's words, so The Crew is going to be one of the best examples we'll ever get for courts to rule on. I expect Ubisoft would rather settle than let this one go that far though.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I imagine a lawsuit would likely bring up the topic of how hard it would be for a developer to keep the game around past purchase.

For instance, imagine a massively multiplayer online game; everyone playing the game is acutely aware of how much server hardware is needed to maintain that online presence, and it's unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

That's probably why attention was pushed onto The Crew. It's a racing game that shouldn't need much from a server, so it's arguably unfair to tie it to that access and take it offline.

[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

it's unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

Older multiplayer games would let you self-host the server, long before the current trend.

Ubisoft doesn't have to continue to host servers. They just have to release the server code. Zero cost to them.

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

zero cost to them

I would imagine it would reveal how sh*tty the ubisoft code bases are and has a reputation cost XD. But if it's that big of a risk then they should keep the servers running indefinitely.

[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, they don't have to release the source code. A compiled version would be fine.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Pirates have managed to run servers for tons of MMOs. The only thing stopping people from running servers themselves is that they're not made available.

[-] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's why companies shutting down online games need to be compelled to open-source or at least provide binaries for their servers.

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Don't get it wrong, the reason The Crew was the perfect game to start the movement is solely because Ubisoft is french, a country that has pretty strong consumer laws that they aren't respecting.

[-] ChonkaLoo@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

Only fair I hope it'll cost them a lot.

[-] cbarrick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago
[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Like Ross said, since they are suing in the USA better to not get your hopes up.

[-] punseye@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] NOOBMASTER@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

fuck yeah here we go

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