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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A federal judge has blocked the state of Hawaii from enforcing a recently enacted ban on firearms on its prized beaches and in other areas including banks, bars and parks, citing last year's landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling expanding gun rights.

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[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 year ago

How big of a coward do you have to be to feel the need to bring a gun to the beach?

[-] vd1n@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think I know why... They're criminals.

Pretty much only criminals have people trying to kill them everyday.

Maybe America just has a lot of criminals Maybe so many that it's starting to show in our politics and democracy.

I wish this post wasn't so believable. ...it was supposed to be sarcasm.

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Have you met a conservative man lately? They're scared of everything. Especially their own feelings

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 year ago

Can I carry one into the court where the justices meet? Or is safety just something the "little people" need to work about?

[-] Dee@lemmings.world 54 points 1 year ago

What happened to respecting states rights? So sick of the judicial branch in the US, the most untethered and corrupt branch of them all. Which is saying a lot considering the state of the legislative branch.

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 year ago

Republicans only care about state’s rights when they can use state law to push one of their terrible policies at state level because they can’t force it nationally.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

States' rights only exists in the eyes of Conservatives if it's related to owning other humans.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

Republicans want all power consolidated at the level they can most effectively control. They were only ever about "states' rights" because they typically are better at capturing state governments than national institutions.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It was never a thing, and the GOP has never given a shit about it.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Republicans have no political platform, but they do have a judicial agenda.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

Why do they defend so hard for like the one weird out of 1000 who openly waves a gun around that makes everyone extremely uncomfortable. People around open carriers don't think "wow freedom!", they get super fucking uncomfortable.

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[-] obinice@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Damn, the US annexation of Hawai'i continues to hurt their nation :-(

I hope one day they can win their freedom back.

[-] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

USA: Has major gun violence problem.

US legal system: yEw cANt tAYKE thUR fReeDUMB

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

"Who needs guns on the beach"

I'm trans. Id sooner never go. But if I had to, with the way things are going, you bet your ass I am afraid and would rather be armed

[-] Noughmad@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a trans person, would you rather go to a beach where nobody is armed, or to a beach where everybody might be armed?

[-] Established_Trial@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I’m not trans, but I’d rather go where everyone might be armed. Just because everyone is supposed to not bring a gun somewhere doesn’t mean there won’t be someone that does- how many shootings in the US happen in “gun free zones”?

[-] Fract@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Only in the US. When I go to the beach in my country, Australia, I'd never even consider the possibility of a gunman.

[-] solstice@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll foolishly assume this is a comment posted by a human in good faith and not a troll or a bot.

Does fog of war mean anything to you? Go to a crowded place where everyone is armed. Person 1 is a baddie and kills person 2. Person 3 is a Good Guy and shoots person 1. People 4, 5, and 6 are also Good Guys With Guns and didn't directly observe the original altercation, they only observed Person 3 shooting Person 1, and assume Person 3 shot Person 2 as well. People 4, 5, and 6, open fire on Person 3. They are bad shots though and the adrenaline dump makes them miss, so People 7, 8, and 9 get shot in the crossfire. At this point it is total chaos, everyone is either shooting at everyone else (fight), running in panic (flight), getting shot in the crossfire (freeze), or just shrieking their head off at the carnage in front of them (freak). Then the police arrive and shoot the survivors.

Congratufuckinglations, we now have a bunch of bodies and dozens of traumatized people because you morons couldn't leave your fucking guns at home and enjoy the goddamn beach.

I hate this country so much sometimes.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

If they can't ban guns, they should ban conservatives instead. Problem solved.

Friendly Reminder: It is perfectly legal to discriminate based on political affiliation. Do your part to help fight conservatism by excluding conservatives in your daily life. It is not appropriate to conduct business or keep relationships with such people.

[-] d16n@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

what about the liberal gun owners?

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Liberal gun owners (like me) aren't taking guns to beaches.

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago

Good luck finding a liberal gun owner who is bringing it to a beach...

[-] S_204@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the twisted retarded logic that conservatives hold.

"I'm a piece of shit who wants to bring a gun to the beach, Liberals must want the same terrible things I do"

[-] solstice@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, well what about MY freedom to go to a beach and not be worried about getting fucking SHOT? Why do THEY get all these rights and freedoms while WE have to suffer the consequences? I don't fucking get it. What about our rights to not get shot?

[-] dill333@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If someone wants to go to the beach with a gun, with the purpose of shooting at people, you think a law is going to stop them?

[-] solstice@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/7-year-old-shot-killed-fourth-july-jet-ski-dispute-florida-rcna92896

Two groups of morons both armed started a ruckus, pulled their guns, started shooting, and now an innocent bystander CHILD is fucking dead. Because idiots couldn't leave their guns at home. It's not all about active shooters.

Witnesses described the scene as two groups of Hispanic males shooting at one another, police said.

Don't you just love all this freedom we have?!?

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

Why the fuck does anyone need a gun on the beach? I can’t think of one justifiable argument for needing one there.

[-] Stench5692@artemis.camp 10 points 1 year ago

Because they're constantly pants shittingly terrified of anything they don't understand and need a gun to feel anything other than the constant overwhelming feeling of cowardice in the face of normal life.

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[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Well duh how else are you going to protect yourself from all the other armed people on the beach?

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[-] jao@lemy.lol 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The law in question prohibits licensed carry of firearms from a list of areas and premises, it does not only ban guns on beaches.

posted by @30mag@lemmy.world

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[-] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The Second Amendment is all about having arms and arms training so that men are generally ready to join a war, specifically against the English. It was never about walking around with a gun for "self-defense." Also, bullets weren't even invented yet, so they really had no idea at all about modern guns.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The rules are all made up. The Supreme Court is a sham

[-] timespace@lemmy.ninja 5 points 1 year ago

Hm, how does California get away with banning it then? Or is that next on the chopping block?

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