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[-] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 247 points 1 year ago

"Dead language"

Dude it doesn't count if you're literally killing the language on purpose

[-] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 year ago

Yup. Wish my Welsh grandfather could’ve lived to see this.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago

It's also not a dead language by any stretch of the imagination. Even latin isn't technically a dead language since it is still used.

Imperialists calling something dead is often just wishful thinking.

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[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

“Just seen”

“Just saw” is accepted shorthand for “I/we just saw…” “I have seen…” is acceptable if you’re saying that you’ve watched a movie 27 times.

Even substituting in “I just have seen” in the OP doesn’t make grammatical sense to me.

The guy should probably worry more about his own English than other people’s Welsh.

[-] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

“I’ve just seen Dave being kicked out by his missus” works. Maybe it’s regional because [I’ve] just seen the news/the results/the answers/Kelly all sound fine to my ear. But I am a bit of a cockney.

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[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 170 points 1 year ago

Typical unionist. Adores the kingdom but hates all the different cultures inside of it.

[-] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 128 points 1 year ago

“What a lovely forest, pity there’s trees in it.”

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago

Basically the English in a nutshell considering what they did to Ireland

[-] Rozauhtuno 38 points 1 year ago

What a nice island you got there, sure would be a shame if someone were to create an artificial famine, innit?

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

Also the reason for the endless rolling hills in Ireland is because the British cut down all the trees since the Irish kept hiding in them to fight.

[-] Richie030@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago

As an Englishman , I disagree, most couldn't give a flying fuck about whether the Welsh want to learn Welsh, only attention seeking wankers who like to stir up shit say shit like this. Fuck them

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 138 points 1 year ago

dead language

If people learn it, and people use it, it is by definition not a dead language.

This is some colonialist BS.

[-] User_4272894@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Also, over half a million Welsh speakers exist in Wales, accounting for roughly 20% of the population. It's hardly dead.

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[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Proposal:

Force the English to learn Welsh and rename the English language to American

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago

🇬🇧 English (Traditional)

🇺🇲 English (Simplified)

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[-] sigh@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, let's rename it to Canadian.

Edit: Be the change you want to see, tell your instance admin to run this SQL query: UPDATE language SET name = 'Canadian' WHERE id = 37

A screenshot of this and the previous comment but after running the mentioned SQL query, meaning it says Canadian instead of English

[-] oscarlavi@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago

Welsh here. Not everyone speaks it, but that's because the English (even as late at the 1950's) used the school system to literally beat it out of us (look up the Welsh Not). Even with that concerted effort to force the language out, it's growing again after a few generations have passed. Being from the south, I know relatively few people who speak it fluently, but I know exactly 0 people who would actually want it abolished.

[-] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

My cousin is dating a guy who’s first language is welsh. His family live basically at the base of Snowdonia. He is fluent in English but welsh is definitely his preferred language. I thought he was a bit aloof when I first met him but he later explained he finds it hard to keep up with the conversation and be as witty and quick in English as he is in welsh, especially in a noisy pub. He’s in his early 30s and all his friends from home are bilingual but consider their native language welsh.

[-] Neon@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

the British trying not to commit cultural genocide for 10 Minutes (impossible)

[-] sab@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

The language revival efforts in the British isles are honestly inspiring. In Scotland a lot of people are making sure their children are educated in Gaelic, even though they don't speak a word themselves.

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[-] Kefass@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago

The Brits did not learn from their last open vote I see.

[-] c10l@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

They should have stopped at Boaty McBoatface, really.

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[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

This seems like rage bait. The smug british stereotype is too perfect.

[-] Braydox_ofAstroya@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

It is as well as being in old repost

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 50 points 1 year ago

Anyone who thinks Welsh is a dead language clearly has never visited West or North Wales.

[-] Weeby_Wabbit@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Bring back Cornish and the other minority languages too. Who knows, it might make the place more tolerant of other cultures.

[-] tVxUHF@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

EU used to provide almost all the funding for preserving, teaching and promotion of Cornish. After Brexit, Cornwall is now getting less than half the funding that EU would have provided.

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[-] Fisk400@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I wonder what the general kill count for languages that can be directly attributed to the english.

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[-] Kinyutaka@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago
[-] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Yoons typically bang on about the importance of conservation of tradition, UK culture and values but are incredibly quick to deny its national languages. Usually as they see this as a threat to the union instead of something wonderful to protect and promote in modern Britain.

You should see some of the rhetoric on twitter regarding dual road signs. Some madlad got lost driving to Fort William as the sign also says An Gearasdan.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

What's Welsh for moron? Because this guy is that.

[-] nosedive@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

What's Welsh for moron?

Carrot

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[-] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

I bet he speaks only one language. What a moron!

[-] RealThunderhop@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What culture would willingly lose its culture?

Makes no sense

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[-] IverCoder@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Calling Welsh a dead language in Wales that should be abandoned is like calling Bisaya a dead language in Mindanao

[-] gremlinbrain@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago

I love seeing prpaganda campains fail publicly

[-] teft@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago

It's always the chucklefuck who only speaks one language that wants to abolish "dead" languages.

[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

FYI, here in North of France we've got a regional meal called Welsh, which is composed of a grilled slice of bread, ham or bacon, drown in a preparation of melted cheddar, Guinness beer, Worcestershire sauce and mustard. It goes with chips and a pint of pills. It's part of our hangover medication. You can top it with a pan fried egg.

Here is a video (in French I'm afraid)

https://www.cuisineaz.com/recettes/welsh-complet-77338.aspx

Anyway, don't mess with the Welsh or the North will come beat your ass.

[-] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It’s called Welsh rarebit and it’s plenty common in England too!

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[-] oshaboy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Isn't Latin required in the British Curriculum?

Also Welsh is classified as a Vulnerable Language, so far from dead.

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