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[-] Aikawa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 189 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How long 'til this happens?

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago

It seems there's two big rabbit holes online.

"Do COVID vaccines have side effects?" leading to thinking abortions should be illegal, atheists are the devil, Trump is your saviour, and that Russia is justified in invading Ukraine.

"Is capitalism unfair?" leading to tankies, thinking communism would be good for the proles, and thinking Russia is justified in invading Ukraine.

Almost like Russia is spreading both trails of bullshit.

[-] pm_boobs_send_nudes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Has already happened with laws requiring identification of users who want to visit porn sites (Utah)

[-] JonsJava@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I know I could Google it, but I'll ask here, because others may be afraid to ask: what is a tankie? I'm seeing that phrase a lot, but I guess I'm getting old, because I missed the rising of that phrase.

[-] Aikawa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

EuroNutellaMan already said it in a concise manner. To put it even shorter, it's the Marxist-Leninists, state-capitalism and dictatorship loving right-wing of communism.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Communist Fascists basically.

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd assume it's someone who supports communism. It's likely a reference to the infamous Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989, when the Chinese government used tanks to suppress protestors in the square.

The reason it's prominent on Lemmy is because the main dev of the software used to run Lemmy apparently supports communism.

It should be noted, though, that that last sentence ultimately doesn't matter since the the software is open-source. Should the software become an issue, someone else can simply start developing the Lemmy software instead. Additionally, because it's open-source, everyone can create or join a Lemmy instance instead of using the dev's own lemmy.ml instance.

[-] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really, it's more people who identify as Marxist-Leninists or leftist in general who deny, downplay, or outright praise the genocidal actions of totalitarian regimes like the USSR, the PRC, etc, and/or who today will support countries like Russia in the ukraine-russia conflict (explicitly or more overtly) simply because they hate the US and NATO.

The origins actually predate Tiananmen square, but I can't exactly remember if it was people who praised the actions of the USSR during the Prague spring or the Hungarian revolution.

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[-] Generic_Handel@kbin.social 160 points 1 year ago

The paranoia is starting to ramp up, now with drones and missiles hitting inside Russia.

My guess is they will crack down hard on anyone trying to talk about the actual reality of what's going on vs the party line.

[-] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago

They already do. This just removed more ways to hide.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 122 points 1 year ago

A classic move by authoritarian tyrants, suppress the spread of information, outlaw the free exchange of ideas.

This is why Tor and other privacy preserving technology is so important. People's lives and wellbeing depend on them. We must not forget there are people in this world who are being harassed, tortured, and killed because they dare to question their government, dare to criticize their leaders, dare to think for themselves.

"While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power." -V for Vendetta

[-] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Afraid of a civilian uprising. Also RIP classic warez “.ru” pages like old-game.

[-] Endorkend@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Bwah, plenty of them have alternative domains and hosting not in Russia.

[-] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Old-game has a fuck ton of ancient abandonware and not so abandoned but still ancient warez.

[-] masterairmagic@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago

I expect Western governments are looking at this and saying "gee, I wish we had that".

[-] UsernameLost@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The US is already trying to do it with KOSA

[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago

Expect this to come to the EU in a few years.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 34 points 1 year ago

But you see, it is only bad if it is done by authoritarian regimes, but we are states of law and democracy, so there is nothing bad about it. And we are states of law because trust me bro

-European conservatives and "social democrats"

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago

The UK conservatives aren't even trying to hide it anymore. They have now just gone full on dictatorship energy.

Fortunately they are a bunch of incompetents who fight amongst themselves like a sack of cats. Otherwise they might actually represent threat.

[-] Necronomicommunist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

While I agree with your distaste, I hope you remain wary. Their incompetence seems to have the outcome of enriching them and their sponsors. Can you still attribute incompetence when they are benefitting?

Regarding dictatorship, the conservatives right now are setting up a lot of things like anti-protest laws that seem toothless because they haven't been used to the fullest extent, but the groundwork is there. It won't take long (likely one election cycle) and I'm sure we'll see them use it in the fullest extent.

[-] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 7 points 1 year ago

Becareful that's what everyone in the US thought, and then we got Trump and the Q brigade taking down our democracy.

[-] IDe@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 year ago

Why? If anything the EU tends towards pro-privacy/anti-authoritarianism and has mostly avoided this kind of security theater seen in other countries.

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[-] sphfaar@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

It will happen first in the USA, UK and Australia before all the EU countries approve such bullshit.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

I don't understand why we're constantly told that Russia and China are the biggest threats to democracy, because we keep stealing their ideas.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Republicans would love the freedumb of living in Russia

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

welp. they have to catch up with north korea eventually

[-] riley0@lemmy.fmhy.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's gonna truly suck. VK has good videos unavailable elsewhere. I've had an account there for a long time. I wonder what that'll mean for access to rutracker. edit: whois says rutracker is registered in the Bahamas :)

[-] prosp3kt@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Piracy is allowed there anyway since the war the will not punish it, they even promote it with an emergent law

[-] zbynaCool@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I think this will lower hacker problems by half atleast lol

[-] julian@lemmy.jpaulus.io 35 points 1 year ago

I doubt that. They'll probably get a free pass, just like the north korean ones.

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

North Korean hackers don't have a free pass. They straight work out of government offices

[-] MaxPower@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Are there identities of russian Babushkas for sale anywhere?

/s but not really

[-] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

No, all the babushkas use TOR

[-] nicerdicer@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

This will have a huge impact on free speech in Russia. Also, information we receive from Russia may not be genuine after this measurement will be implemented, as it will be politically in terms of Russia - as we know it from China right now. In order to spread the REAL things that are going on, people will need to risk their freedom.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Given how easy it is to set up a Docker-based wireguard server on a small remote VM, I suspect this will achieve very little.

[-] axzxc1236@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Deep packet inspection is a thing, AFAIK people in China uses a software called v2ray to counter that.

[-] deeznutz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

You can't inspect encrypted packets, what China does is network traffic analysis - examining headers and figuring out patterns based on metadata. They don't care much about what's being transmitted if using a VPN alone is enough to land you in trouble.

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[-] J12@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Ban them from Twitter while you’re at it

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[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 9 points 1 year ago

In einem Authoritaeren Staat ist das die einzige Moeglichkeit Herr der dinge zu werden, sieht man ja auch in China.

[-] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

“The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.”

— Princess Leia Organa

[-] roofuskit@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

If you watch Andor, this is exactly what one of the lead characters Luthen is trying to accomplish. He's afraid that if the Empire tightens too slowly that by the time people are upset with the changes it will be too late. So he wants the rebellion to very loudly and publicly attack the Empire to force them to tighten their grip faster which inspires more rebellion.

[-] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

That’s why he’s so keen to get Saw Gurrera on board. He knows he’s a provocateur and and extremist that will absolutely get the Empire’s jimmies rustled. Not to mention the whole stealing a quadrant’s-worth of payroll.

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[-] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

With the military Russia brought to Ukraine, they might also be running old ass verification tech that might just be key gen capable.

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