This is extremely compelling. Let’s get the world’s billionaires and the six conservatives on the US Supreme Court to investigate it in an amateur built submarine. Rich people love the titanic and lack of regulations.
Let's not leave out other political extremists, can't just have America investigating.
Great idea except Windows has bricked all non-xbox gaming controllers /s
I'm sure I got a MadCatz controller lying somewhere, use that
We don’t have to tell the billionaires this
Just use x360ce, nothing can go wrong with a layer of controller emulation!
Sounds like nonsense, the pictures are swapped. Quote below from https://www.cruisemummy.co.uk/titanic-vs-olympic/
- The Titanic had more irregular windows One of the few differences you can spot by looking at pictures of the Titanic and the Olympic next to each other is that the Titanic had more irregular port holes on B deck.
This is because of all the design changes that were made to that part of the ship during construction – it means that the windows were spaced out a lot more unevenly.
On the Olympic, because the plans were unchanged during construction, the windows are evenly spaced across that deck.
More importantly, even if the Olympic sank instead of Titanic, then Titanic continued serving as an ocean liner and troop ship and hospital ship for two decades, so what was the point of the fraud?
IIRC: Olympic couldn't be insured as it was involved in a collision with HMS Hawkeye; and was found at fault by the Royal Navy. There was also damage that couldn't really be repaired resulting in an permanent slight port list and it was a floating legal liability. Titanic was insured for double its worth after this and White Star was owned by noted scumbag JP Morgan. Olympic was also being repaired at the same shipyard Titanic was being built at, making a switch that much easier.
My opinion: They swapped the boats in the yard to pass regulatory inspection for Olympic, then swapped back if there's any truth to this.
And now they’ve snared another one
Titanic was under insured so there’s no way they were making any money back by her sinking…
To your last point, the reason was that the Olympic was dealing with some manufacturing issues and couldn’t be insured unless it was basically rebuilt for a new inspection.
Instead of rebuilding it, they secretly renamed it the Titanic so it could be insured fraudulently under the Titanic’s insurance, then intentionally sank it to claim the insurance on it. Now they have a good ship (the real Titanic) which will pass inspection as the Olympic, and they have the insurance payout from the sunken Olympic which shouldn’t have been able to be insured.
Olympic was rammed by a warship which was why she was in dry dock at the same time as Titanic.
They lost me forever at "at the last minute". Anyone with even a slight concept of logistics knows there's no way they're just going to swap all the provisions, luggage, load, fuel, passengers, etc. at anything near the last minute.
and to force Celine Dion to swap out her lyrics at the last minute? Preposterous!
Wait, so her heart wouldn't go on?
It was just too much to unload at the last minute
this is a great theory because while it sounds insane, if it were true it'd actually be very boring
i was thinking that, this is the least insane conspiracy theory simply because no one other than rich fuckheads would care
Apparently there is a Wikipedia page dedicated to Titanic Conspiracy theories, who knew!
In regards to swapping the Olympic with the Titanic, this section summarizes:
British historian Gareth Russell, for his part, calls the theory "so painfully ridiculous that one can only lament the thousands of trees which lost their lives to provide the paper on which it has been articulated." He notes that, "since the sister ships had significant interior architectural and design differences, switching them secretly in a week would be nearly impossible from a practical standpoint. A switch would also not be economically worthwhile, since the ship's owners could have simply damaged the ship while docked (for instance, by setting a fire) and collected the insurance money from that 'accident', which would have been far less severe, and infinitely less stupid, than sailing her out into the middle of the Atlantic with thousands of people, and their luggage, on board, and ramming her into an iceberg".
But like…why the fuck would it even matter? The story is exactly the same, the only different thing is the name of the ship. And if their theory is that they only sunk it for insurance money…like, what were the people in charge of sailing the thing into an iceberg getting out of this except death? What a dumb thing to spend your time being up in arms over.
I believe the "plan" was to sink her slowly by letting some water in, then have the "safest" at sea disaster by calling for help with enough time for nearby vessels to assist. The theory then goes on to claim that hitting the iceberg was an accident that only happened because they couldn't steer around it fast enough due to the water they had already taken on.
Can't remember where I read this it, might have been the Wikipedia article about the conspiracy theory.
They obviously miscalculated the trajectory around the iceberg because they were using the round Earth model.
And forgot the Moon hologram didn't really affect the tides.
Ooooh. Well, when you put it that way!
I mean, having either White Star Line or J.P. Morgan involved in insurance scams is rather believable … every good conspiracy needs a grain of truth …
Maybe, but 'I pointed an arrow at a window' is not the most compelling evidence.
Looks like a deck scupper for letting water drain out is missing too
My theory is that the Titanic actually is the long lost Ship of Theseus, just with all the parts replaced hundreds of times.
Ooo! I like this. Let's spread this as the new conspiracy.
The ship of theseus was actually a spaceship used by the precursors to reach earth. It was broken down into components which were then reused in human ships both to hide the truth and as part of a secret seafaring cult ritual.
The piece on the titanic accidentally activated during its maiden voyage and attempted to take the ship to the precursor base in Altantis, but since Atlantis was sunk, it took the ship under and crashed into the seafloor.
It was later recovered by the us military in a covert operation disguised as a civilian project and was a key component in winning the space race.
This would imply that the captain and navigation crew intended to crash, which none of the evidence indicates.
The captain receives a moment of clarity as he gasps at the merciless cold consuming his body entire, water flooding into his torso as his life gently bubbles from his mouth. “My portfolio is secure” he thinks.
Wait did the captain go down with the ship? I thought the crew was mostly able to escape.
If only the two pictures at the top weren’t swapped.
Conspiracy theorists don't want you to know this one simple trick
I once caught a taxi in Belfast, and the driver recounted the same theory, claiming it as fact. He also claimed to be a retired member of a paramilitary group (which was probably more plausible).
My Belfast Taxi Driver told a story about being a catholic and having to sneak out of town into the woods to be able to hear mass when he was a kid.
I had serious doubts that he was old enough to have been around in the troubles if that was even a thing during the troubles.
Differences from Titanic
The Olympic and Titanic were nearly identical, and were based on the same core design. A few alterations were made to Titanic and later on Britannic which were based on experience gained from Olympic's first year in service. The most noticeable of these was that the forward half of Titanic's A Deck promenade was enclosed by a steel screen with sliding windows, to provide additional shelter, whereas Olympic's promenade deck remained open along its whole length. The additional enclosed volume was a major contributor to Titanic's increased gross register tonnage of 46,328 tons over Olympic's 45,324 tons, which allowed Titanic to claim the title of largest ship in the world.[35]
Additionally, the B-Deck First-Class promenade decks installed on Olympic had proven to be scarcely used because of the already ample promenade space on A-Deck. Accordingly, Thomas Andrews eliminated this feature on Titanic and built additional, enlarged staterooms with en-suite bathrooms. It also allowed a Café Parisien in the style of a French sidewalk café to be added as an annexe to the À la Carte Restaurant, and for the Restaurant itself to be expanded to the Port-side of the ship. One drawback of this was that the Second-Class promenade space on B-Deck was reduced aboard Titanic.
A reception area for the restaurant was added in the foyer of the B-Deck aft Grand Staircase on Titanic, which did not exist on Olympic, and the main reception room on D-Deck was also slightly enlarged. 50-foot (15 m) private promenade decks were added to the two luxury parlour suites on B-Deck on Titanic, as well as additional First-Class gangway entrances on B-Deck. Cosmetic differences also existed between the two ships, most noticeably concerning the wider use of Axminster carpeting in Titanic's public rooms, as opposed to the more durable linoleum flooring on Olympic.
Most of these shortcomings on Olympic would be addressed in her 1913 refit, which altered the configuration of Olympic's First-Class sections to be more like those of Titanic. Although the A-Deck Promenade remained open for the entirety of Olympic's career, the B-Deck promenade was vetoed and staterooms added like those on Titanic, as well as a Café Parisien and enlarged restaurant. The 1913 refit also included modifications for greater safety after the loss of the Titanic, including the addition of extra lifeboats and the addition of an inner watertight skin in the hull along about half the length of the ship. An extra watertight compartment was added bringing the total of watertight compartments to 17. Five watertight bulkheads were raised to B deck. Along with these improvements there were many others included in the 1913 refit.
It’s a fun theory, but weren’t dishes and other artifacts stamped or embossed with “Titanic” recovered from the wreck?
JP Morgan bankroll actual ecocide and genocide but people still make up fancifiul stories instead of being mad about the real world murder they fund
We all know titanic was a victim of Indiana Jones and his rich friends through their submersible sinking the ship to block the entrance to Atlantis. While being chased by Cthulhu, since he angered him because they took the crystal skull. Then the US government covered it up because illuminati does not want the world to know Cthulhu exist.
I read this a decade ago on reddit. It's one of the only conspiracy theories that I actually think isn't so crazy.
There is a great (2-part, I think) series by Oceanliner Designs on YouTube that disproves this theory quite conclusively
I posted it less because of the conspiracy theory itself and more because of what the person thought was conclusive evidence.
There's another reason for the sinking of whatever carcass it was... Three of the most wealthy men were aboard, all were strongly agaisnt the newly-minted Federal Reserve.
Now it's a simple matter of seeing how JPM felt about the Federal Reserve.
Whatever ship it was hit something.
Yes. An iceberg.
WTC 7? How deep does this go?
Crushingly...
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