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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 243 points 4 months ago

Make it so felons cannot run for president and resign immediately after.

If he did that Biden would be remembered as one of the greatest presidents ever.

[-] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 31 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately Trump isn’t the real underlying problem; the republican party will churn out someone even worse who is not a convicted felon.

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[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

But wait until after the Republican convention.

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[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 207 points 4 months ago

Biden has the chance to do the coolest thing. He wont because hes the most tepid person in the most tepid party in the country but, I'd love to be wrong.

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 88 points 4 months ago

Such a good word to describe Biden. Tepid. Like a beer that's been sitting while i worked outside, or maybe the last sip of coffee. Not the best, but better than nothing.

[-] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

I prefer milquetoast.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

Supporting genocide and not stepping down when your opponent is a literal fascist and you're unelectable, gets you compared with the last sip of coffee?

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[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Not the best, but better than nothing.

We have very different opinions about the fundamental nature of "old, room temperature, completely flat" beer, if nothing else.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you just worked for 4h in 30°C weather, believe me it is better than nothing.

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah I'm still drinking that last sip of coffee, I don't care if it's cold. Apt word, apt description.

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[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 109 points 4 months ago

The worst part is that Biden and the Dems don't have the balls to do anything like this or intentionally put this verdict to the test. Just clutch their pearls and not actually do anything.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

Gotta take the high road while the other side takes a road so low it undermines the foundations of everything we are!

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 33 points 4 months ago

Biden already said as much with his response to the ruling.

Paraphrasing: "We must respect the (self imposed) limits to the presidency and I will do so. We can't exactly trust the next guy to do so and that's dangerous." (Proceeds to wag finger as if that will do fuck-all)

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Nobody in this administration actually wanted to prosecute Trump. That's why the Stormy Daniels case had to go through NY State Court rather than the federal system. Biden's USAs sat on these cases for nearly four years, after he took office. And they slow rolled them all through the various federal districts during the primary, with the hope that he'd lose the primary and the problem would just go away.

Everyone in the White House responsible for prosecuting Trump must have breathed a big sigh of relief when that SC verdict came down, because it gave them the perfect excuse to drop all the charges.

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

Democrats are like 'Good Cops'. They're not the ones actively murdering and beating and doing all the bad shit. But they do just kinda stand around while it happens and don't do much.

We need them, for now, to at least not make things worse, but what we really need is to fucking change things from the bottom up. Unfortunately, I'm afraid it is likely too late. Such change will take two or three decades, and that's if, in this next election, enough people actually rally together to start doing something, and continue doing something for the next thirty years.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 89 points 4 months ago

What stopping them is that Democrats are too weak and timid to do anything.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

don't mix up weakness with decency though

[-] Metz@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

If you play by the rules but your opponent doesn't, you will always lose.

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[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Not mutually exclusive...

[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

I wish Dems had that dog in them to fight, even if this was possible. The fact they still go around calling modern day GOP their friends and colleagues says more than enough.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 10 points 4 months ago

They're all on the same corporate payrolls, dems are and have been nothing more than controlled opposition.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 46 points 4 months ago

Cowardice, the same thing that stopped him from packing the court on his first day.

[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

To some extent, the Democrats are playing chicken with Trump's eventual re-election. They don't want to actually "seize" power in the same way that Republicans do. They want the pendulum to swing back and forth so they can keep getting re-elected and keep playing that old game of kickball with Republicans. Dems win some. Republicans win some. Everybody gets to complain about the opposition and do nothing. That Republicans seem to be updating their modus operandi from playing kickball to playing what seems to be "king of the hill, but with knives" has not quite dawned on the Democratic party collectively yet.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 months ago

For real. Biden could seemingly imprison some republicans from both chambers of Congress, and secure a majority in both chambers. From there have congress pass legislation making felons incapable of running for office, and also allowing for all actions a president does liable to prosecution.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You’re thinking too small, he could fucking have Alito and Thomas thrown in jail or hanged if he were so inclined, I’m not saying he should have them hanged, but he totally could based on this ruling

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 4 months ago

I'm saying it, and I'm saying don't stop with Alito and Thomas.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

If he were to do that he’d have to do it like this to save the democracy, do the damn thing maybe add his electoral opponent and a few others in, expand and fill the court, have them reverse the decision, then abdicate, turn himself in, and die a criminal hero

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[-] Hedup@lemm.ee 38 points 4 months ago

Of course Biden shouldn't do anything heinous, but he definitely should do something earthshaking against either Republican party or the Supreme Court just to make a point.

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[-] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 4 months ago
[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 24 points 4 months ago

When you risk your own life, you've got balls.

When you risk other people's lives without their permission, you're an asshole.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What's stopping him is "civility politics," even when he's been handed a path to thoroughly purge corruption and fascism from the supreme court, he won't.

The GOP has shown they do not care at all about civility, and will abuse this rule.

To not play by the same rules when people's lives are at stake is a deep moral failure, and shows that politics are simply a game for the DNC when faced with a GOP that doesn't care.

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[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 months ago

An obstructionist Congress?

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago

What's stopping him now from dissolving congress? From sending them all back home and requiring governors send new representatives. This situation is the LITERAL slippery slope Republicans have cried about for decades

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dissolving congress isn't an executive branch power. Congress can just ignore something like that.

The president can't just will that kind of a thing into existence.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 34 points 4 months ago

Having the FBI arrest half of them and hold them indefinitely is within his authority, he just has to argue they’re terrorists. He could say every member of congress who made statements defending the January 6 insurrection is a terrorist and send them to gitmo. He’s more likely to come after the squad though.

[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Reminder that CPAC proudly declared "we are all domestic terrorists".

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 15 points 4 months ago

Every member of congress that was part of the attempt to overthrow rhe election is an insurrectionist and should be detained or in jail by now.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Shooting a gun is well within the president's power. If he can shoot a gun with no consequences, Congress doesn't have the ability to ignore shit.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 20 points 4 months ago

The President is also the ranking member of the military and could use the military to halt the Congress meeting, since he would be immune. It would also mean that they could not impeach or remove him because he is immune, and you cannot charge someone with immunity.

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[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

So, Fat Orange Clown, how is "hiding documents you shouldn't have as a non-president" an official act? How is anything done as "not the president" an official act?

RIP

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[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 months ago

Biden should order assassination of the MAGA justices

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago
  1. Those aren't things that would otherwise be crimes. He doesn't have immunity from procedure, he has immunity for crimes. He kill the justices, or kidnap them and lock them up in some undisclosed location. He has immunity in those cases. But expanding the court would require passing a law. Passing a law is not an action that the President takes, regardless of any presidential immunity. As for felons not being able to become presidents, any law congress passed to say that would be unconstitutional, because the constitution lays out the only requirements to become a US president. The constitution also limits the ways in which the constitution could be changed, and none of that is within the powers of a president. He could kill Trump, but he can't change the rules about who's allowed to be president.

  2. He still believes that the system works. He thinks the checks and balances work. He believes that, regardless of the recent Supreme Court ruling, that he's not immune, so he won't commit crimes like that. The result might be that the final president of the Republic thought it was more important to follow tradition and live the values that he thought the president should hold, than to do what was necessary to prevent the Republic from becoming a dictatorship.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago

Immunity does not equate to lack of opposition within government, which is what he is going to get if he plays by the rules. Now, if he goes in as commander in chief to depose them through a literal coup, he would be legally immune from the repercussions of abusing his powers whether it worked out or not, but the mistake here would be believing that the GQP care about legality when they only consider it a means to an end to corrupt so that the people that do care can't use it against them.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 months ago

If I were in Biden's position, the first thing I'd do would be to [comment cannot legally be completed].

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Last episode of ~~Dragon~~ Weekly Americano, we witnessed the once heroic group known as the Supreme Court Justice 9 reveal their evil plans meant to enslave the citizens. The author made the villains so strong, the emboldened villains themselves wrote themselves a weakness knowing that there is no opposition strong enough to wield the mighty power of “Absolute Immunity” against them. Is there anyway to stop the Supreme Court Justice 9, find out in this episode of Weekly Americano.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I keep seeing post and comments like this.

You all realize it’s only immunity from criminal prosecution, right? It’s not instant dictatorship power over the nation. He’d have to order the assassination of Trump and members of SCOTUS to leverage the ruling for those goals.

[-] audiomodder 18 points 4 months ago

You are correct. But the fact that the ruling enables those actions is batshit crazy.

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[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Dems are controlled opposition. How many times do they have to betray you before you learn that.

[-] geekworking@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

All this talk about Biden could do all of these administrative things that he can't legally, but it misses the point.

Say he pushes some illegal orders. He can not get in trouble for pushing them, but they can be legally challenged and shot down quickly. Especially when you can legally "tip" helpful justices.

He would need to do things that could not be taken back.

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