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[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 193 points 5 months ago

Dude should have just walked down to the local mechanic. Better pay and hours

[-] Halosheep@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

Idk man, friend of mine works as a mechanic for the airforce and makes ~78k/yr, gets a large housing bonus, and has access to military loans that have really good terms, comparatively.

Ignoring the whole military lifestyle bs that he has to go through, it's not that bad for someone who really doesn't know what to do with themselves.

[-] als 15 points 5 months ago

The US army uses basic socialist policies (we will help you if you're dying from cancer etc) to recruit. It only works because the US state refuses to take care of its subjects. The moment people are no longer desperate, the recruitment numbers will fall.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 months ago

Except if you get cancer while in they medically discharge you and leave you with nothing. “Go file with the VA!”

I was in for ten years and saw it happen multiple times.

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[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

It's not terrible, but the housing allowance is because they force you to move wherever they want. And that salary is within the normal range:

https://www.salary.com/research/salary/listing/aircraft-mechanic-salary

You are looking at the "pros" without really seeing the "cons".

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[-] Inucune@lemmy.world 131 points 5 months ago

People getting wise to the military. Many would defend their country, but don't want to die for an oil company to make an extra thousand. Guessing which is more likely is left as an exercise for the reader.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 47 points 5 months ago

Yeah, catch me joining the army when we're fighting actual nazis again. Til then I'm good at home

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

"... til then I'm good at home." Funny, that's most likely where you'll have to kill some Nazis next.

[-] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago

And the good thing is you'll have plenty of warning because your government is unlikely to join the war against the nazis for a good couple of years into the war against the nazis.

I jest....but kinda not really given current US foreign policy (or that of the past 100yrs tbh)

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 100 points 5 months ago
[-] Loonesota@lemmy.world 84 points 5 months ago

I mean it's obviously total bullshit as is, but the fucking link at the bottom really seals the deal... I'm totally convinced now...

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 18 points 5 months ago

Weird, why would it be a .com link as opposed to .gov or .mil?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 20 points 5 months ago

Because the US government pays a private company to advertise for them

[-] uis@lemm.ee 66 points 5 months ago
[-] uis@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago

Green text, green uniform

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago

They're all over Reddit man

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 34 points 5 months ago

At least we're safe here on Lemmy.

^γvɒn^ ^ǝʜɈ^ ^nioį^

[-] oce@jlai.lu 23 points 5 months ago

Join Yvan? You mean join Lemmygrad?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 5 months ago

Have you considered that Glorious Leader Putin is invading Ukraine to restore the Soviet Union and fight Nazis, not because he's a fascist twatwaffle funding the rise of the global far right and murdering his neighbors for power and money?

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[-] Gustephan@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Be on site military contractor

Told I'll be making infinitemoney.jpg

Actually make slightlymorethangs.jpg but with no pension

Tfw ptsd from analyzing combat footage

Tfw actively and daily shunned as "not one of us, just a dirty filthy contractor"

Tfw you can't get another engineering job because your entire portfolio is classified

Tfw when there is no mental health support or support groups available for aforementioned "just a dirty filthy contractor" reasons

Decide to go back to college instead of killing self

Check brand new school email

"Hi, my name is Sgt Fuckface! Here at the national guard we're looking for promising young graduates like you"

[-] CedarMadness@midwest.social 22 points 5 months ago

Tfw you can't get another engineering job because your entire portfolio is classified

I once got a "redacted" resume from someone who used to work in defense. Basically they just had a bunch of line items like

  • Developed back-end for ████████████████████ in Spring microservices, which is deployed in ██████████████████ used by ██████████ operations daily

It got the point across about their skills and honestly they got an interview from it

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I used to work for a company that contracted out programmers to a defense contractor (Northrup Grumman). It honestly never even occurred to me to redact out the stuff I worked on when I put it in my resume. Nobody said anything about that when I left the company, even though I'd gotten a security clearance to work at NG in the first place. I wonder if your "redacted" person just did it themselves to create a sense of mystery.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 months ago

The way you get around it is discussing what is possible in person. You write a few bullets about your skills but not tied to the contracting. Don’t be specific, it’s not needed.

I don’t even put my military stuff on resumes anymore.

[-] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

> be in military
> get inconsolable trauma and my legs blown off for oil company
> end up homeless anyways and die of a drug overdose

God, I love this country. USA! USA!

[-] Crismus@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

They forget the part where the signing bonus doesn't exist after they finish BCT.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago
[-] neo@lemy.lol 20 points 5 months ago

Kind of yes. Wikipedia says: Basic Combat Training.

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[-] Loonesota@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

How so? Is it a flat out lie, or are there costs associated with BCT?

Very funny either way, as I was thinking about signing on as a last ditch effort to set myself up a few years ago, but I ended up getting forklift certification and a CDL, and have been doing just fine since.

[-] Crismus@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I know that when I joined up in 1997 a lot of those bonuses simply disappeared if you didn't keep ahold of your original paperwork. Sometimes they had a lot of hidden clauses, so you could lose the bonus for a minor infraction. Or, the bonus was really part of your pay and the full amount would be paid out after if you actually completed 8 years instead of the 2-4 year commitment you started on.

All I know is I personally ended up permanently disabled at 18 and fought with the VA until 2019 to get my disability compensation. Which they only paid me back pay from 2009 instead of from the date of disability in 1997.

Getting money from the government takes a long time. The people downwind of the Atomic test sites have been fighting 50+ years for the full payments from being irradiated during the 50's.

But hey, joining the military is a good job if you aren't stupid and taking a combat MOS when you could have a steady non-combat job with perks. Right now the Commissary benefits for cheap food is worth it with how food prices have been going.

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[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 36 points 5 months ago

He'll be married to a stripper in no time

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

And the proud owner of a Mustang with a 28% APR loan.

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

hey man... recruiting's fucking hard. it's harder than ever for them to make their numbers. I feel bad for 'em because it's fucking hopeless. but also, fuck recruiters lol, because when they stop giving fucks, you end up with someone really neet on your squad

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 44 points 5 months ago

I hate recruiters because they encourage naive teenagers to become professional killers at an age and level of experience where they cannot understand what that means.

Half the point of basic training is to break or subvert the part of the brain that questions authority and objects to doing violence. Psychologically, humans are not designed for killing other humans. Taking a life is difficult for a good fucking reason, and bypassing that instinct is dangerous.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Half the point of basic training is to break or subvert the part of the brain that questions authority and objects to doing violence. Psychologically, humans are not designed for killing other humans. Taking a life is difficult for a good fucking reason, and bypassing that instinct is dangerous.

Valid point. I do worry, though, without the training you describe - which I went through - is reverting to pre-ww2 training where soldiers would freeze up in combat instead of reverting to their training (hopefully). At the end of the day, soldiers are trained for combat, and I wouldn't want to put people into those situations without as realistic a training regime as we can devise; you train as you fight so you don't have to sacrifice soldiers to gain the proficiency to operate in a combat environment.

Ideally we'd get rid of war.

[-] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I agree, if you're actually taking a life. If there's a Hitler on the loose, then teach the soldiers to kill without remorse. But why exactly is the US spending the same amount of money as the next 9 countries put together in peacetime? Most soldiers won't take a life, and the ones who do are doing something pointless and evil. Why are we breaking young people's minds in a time of peace?

And y'all actually do have two pretty good reasons for war right now, those being the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Israeli genocide of Palestine. What's the point in having all those trained killers if you're not gonna use them, and if you're not gonna bother going to war for actual good reasons why bother training all those killers?

There was a good reason to break young people back when they had to go fight the Nazis. What's the point now??

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 28 points 5 months ago

I don't know if trying to recruit 4channers is a bottom of the barrel scraping, or just a clear view of how they see every recruit.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Do army recruiters fall under "fed"?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 months ago

Don't they work for the federal government?

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think "fed" is typically used to refer to the 3 letter alphabet agencies, but as you are technically correct (the best kind of correct), I'll accept it

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

3 letter alphabet agencies

DoD

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Department of "Defense"

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

US Army sometimes abbreviated USA.

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[-] festnt@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

realest 4chan post

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 months ago

On one hand this is totally just an ad. On the other hand being a suicidal neet is not sustainable.

[-] adj16@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

On the third, radioactive hand, there are 15000 ways to not be a suicidal neet that don’t involve being a shill for the orphan (and adult) crushing machine

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