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Before I do this. . .are you saying you think it might be legal to film someone without their consent when they are using your bathroom?
No, I'm asking for a source for your information.
That's why I asked if you can cite where you're getting your information from.
So you realize it's illegal, but also need me to cite that it's illegal?
The reason I'm hesitant is that it's a complicated question that is going to be different based on jurisdiction. IANAL, but do have an interest in interpreting law. However, I certainly have zero experience with Brazilian law. So this could turn into a wild-goose chase of me learning Brazilian law for no reason. . .when we both realize that filming someone in your bathroom without their consent is illegal.
Well, you just said "it’s a complicated question that is going to be different based on jurisdiction."
If it's not illegal in the jurisdictions this product is being sold, then your 'it's illegal' argument holds no water. Hence why I asked you to cite where you're getting your information.
Yes, it's complicated because I would have to answer the question multiple different ways. Like 2 party consent states are going to be different than 1 party consent states. And every state is going to be slightly different, with Brazil also being different.
But it seems like we agree: it's illegal to film someone in your bathroom without their consent. So why the busy-work exercise?
Under what jurisdiction? You seem to be ignoring this very important fact.
Just admit you don't know whether it's illegal instead of pretending you do.
Or, you can cite where you're getting your information like you should have done from the very beginning.
Seems like you're taking the busy-work route, lol.
Holy shit, are you talking about this case? It's literally in the very first line of the article. I figured that was just a given. Lol my bad for giving you any credit.
Sorry, you changed your initial stance to 'without consent.' That's a very important distinction to make, because having a hidden camera in your bathroom is not in itself illegal.
Unless you can cite something otherwise.
This is exactly why most retailers aren't responsible for their products being used in an illegal manner.
I suggest you re-read the beginning of this comment chain to get a better idea of what we're talking about.
My very first question to you:
And you are saying I now "changed your initial stance to ‘without consent.’"
lol. Classic. How about you just admit you're wrong?