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[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

True and the Nordics have plenty of poverty themselves once people look closer.

(This is just saying it exists, nothing more)

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 94 points 5 months ago

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Not even a successful society is perfect. It certainly doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. It’s still better than what most of the rest of the world is doing.

[-] zout@fedia.io 21 points 5 months ago

It certainly doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.

Nobody said we shouldn't. The point is, we shouldn't look away from the issues in a country just because they are doing better than others in some cases.

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 11 points 5 months ago

Norway relies on the exploitation of billions in the global south, as all of the western world does.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

What does that even mean? For those of us who aren’t in the know like you are, that phrase doesn’t mean anything to us.

And if you’re open to a friendly suggestion, nix the “western world” propaganda; focus on explaining the “exploitation of billions in the global south” part.

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 8 points 5 months ago

Norway doesn't produce cocoa beans. Norway doesn't produce cotton, or bananas, or iron ore, or cobalt, or gold, or most basic raw materials you need to run a society. Neither do Spain, or Germany, or France, or the USA. Instead, these countries focus on the production of high value-added goods and services, which they can do because they are historically highly industrialized, developed, and have high levels of education, infrastructure and concentration of productive capital.

In this manner, Germany imports iron ore from poor countries in the global south at low prices, and exports cars at high prices. In the international market, therefore, one hour of German/French/Norwegian work is exchanged often for tens of hours of work from India, or Congo, or Mexico. This is unequal exchange, and is the pillar of neocolonialism.

Through political, economical and military powers, the western world has ensured that the global south remains underdeveloped. IMF predatory loans and neoliberal policy impositions, support for fascists or monarchists, coups, or outright military invasions are some of the most common tools the west uses to maintain these countries underdeveloped and with cheap labor.

[-] MrFinnbean@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Care to give some sources to that?

With quick google-fu Nordics seem to be in pretty comfy positions in world wide rankings. Not at the top but certainly in the best 20%

Also there is huge difference in the sense that even if you are poor in the nordics you still have right to healthcare and education. At some places you would just be fucked.

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