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Trump totally screwed the pooch with tariffs and international relations. He's screwed up ukrane/russia, and he's screwing up Venezuela, and he's screwed up relations with Canada for decades. This is very different from the path the U.S. was on. I also don't buy that the U.S. was headed to fascism with military on the streets, and ICE taking naturalized citizens off the streets violently. So no, the parties are not the same. At all.
And specifically villainizing the idiots who helped Trump win by 'protest' voting against the democrats is valid. These are people who claim to want what's good for the country, they seem to understand the issues, but made absolutely moronic voting decision and then often claim some sort of moral superiority. They need to be educated/shamed so that they might do better next election if we actually get one.
What about villainizing the idiots running the Democratic party who insisted on running bad candidates with bad policy.
Yeah man, I'm sure spending the next three years making them fucking hate you even more than they already do will definitely make them more likely to fall inline next time: "on the one hand, the Democrats are still genocidal agents of the ultra wealthy, but on the other hand, some self righteous dumbass online was really condescending and rude to me, so I guess I'll vote for them!"
That's why I said he is doing "very little" and not "nothing" that wasn't where we were already headed. Trump has been a national embarrassment in regards to Ukraine, but I'm not sure he's really hurt them. It's not like Biden was doing a great job there. Venezuela has been "screwed up" for a very long time, and the US is largely responsible for that - both Democrats and Republicans.
Then you haven't been paying attention. What do you think the militarization of police has all been about? That's something that Republicans and Democrats have both been pushing, right alongside mass surveillance. Look into how the "Cop City" protests were responded to.
Trump is a far worse than any Democrat on that front, but lets not pretend ICE wasn't draconian under Biden as well.
WTF? Why is it impossible to have any kind of discussion about the Democratic establishment without this bullshit? Where did I say both parties are the same? They are very different, but the dynamic between the two has always been leading us to certain inevitable outcomes. Republicans push politics to the right, while Democrats follow the polls and don't try to lead the country anywhere. The end result is a steady march to the right.
I think the term "villain" is a little over the top, but I didn't criticize you for calling them out, I criticized you for calling them out exclusively. That's a toxic attitude and a strong indicator of establishment brain-rot. It's repeating the exact mistakes that drove people away from voting for Democrats in the first place. You aren't trying to win elections, you are being smug. I hold you personally more responsible for Trump's win than any protest voter. A curse on you both.