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Does the current US government care about that "majority"'s opinion?
Has it ever?
Iraq, Vietnam, Korea - all deeply unpopular wars. Both parties endorsed them, though, so popular opinion didn't matter.
Will anyone in the next election cycle pay a price for supporting land concessions in Ukraine? I'm not holding my breath after the "Vote Blue No Matter Who" contingent got done crushing the anti-Genocide voting block.
You mean the "Stay home, that'll teach them!" voting block?
1/3 of eligible voters went for Trump. Another 1/3 stayed home or made protest votes. Of those who didn't vote for either party, the vast majority were (de)motivated by straight up apathy. Those trying to teach the Democrats (or Republicans) a lesson were probably the least significant bloc of all, yet some people seem stuck on blaming them for the outcome.
The fault lies with the Democratic establishment that pissed away every opportunity to win what should have been an easy victory. They really had to work to loose that election. If you really want to blame the voters, then start with Trump voters and the Democratic voters who nominated Biden in 2020.
Why stick with just one or the other? I'd rather blame every party that did their best to put Trump in power, whether intentionally or not.
And, like it or not, those who made it their mission to vilify anyone who had a chance of keeping Trump and his cronies from taking power are to blame. I'm perfectly willing to throw people who valued their ideals over pragmatism right under that bus where they belong.
But you didn't. You blamed one tiny segment of voters.
The Republican and Democratic establishments are both to blame, but they are largely the same group. The Republican establishment just lost control of their populists while the Democratic establishment lost the loyalty of theirs.
Trump himself has never been the real problem. He's just a symptom of the rot in both establishments. He is doing very little that wasn't already where we were headed. At worst he sped up the process a bit.
Trump totally screwed the pooch with tariffs and international relations. He's screwed up ukrane/russia, and he's screwing up Venezuela, and he's screwed up relations with Canada for decades. This is very different from the path the U.S. was on. I also don't buy that the U.S. was headed to fascism with military on the streets, and ICE taking naturalized citizens off the streets violently. So no, the parties are not the same. At all.
And specifically villainizing the idiots who helped Trump win by 'protest' voting against the democrats is valid. These are people who claim to want what's good for the country, they seem to understand the issues, but made absolutely moronic voting decision and then often claim some sort of moral superiority. They need to be educated/shamed so that they might do better next election if we actually get one.