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With TVs starting to get USB-C inputs, which are displayport under the hood, hopefully HDMI fucks off.
Ballparking but it will likely take closer to a decade than not for that to actually happen... and I am still not optimistic. And there are actually plenty of reasons to NOT want any kind of bi-directional data transfer between your device and the TV that gets updated to push more and more ads to you every single week.
The reason HDMI is so successful is that the plug itself has not (meaningfully?) changed in closer to 20 years than not. You want to dig out that PS3 and play some Armored Core 4 on the brand new 8k TV you just bought? You can. With no need for extra converters (and that TV will gladly upscale and motion smooth everything...).
Which has added benefits because "enthusiasts" tend to have an AV receiver in between.
The only way USB C becomes a primary for televisions (since display port and usb c are arguably already the joint primary for computer monitors) is if EVERY other device migrates. Otherwise? Your new TV doesn't work with the PS5 that Jimmy is still using to watch NFL every week.
USB-C adapters for absolutely everything are thankfully quite common now thanks to the laptop/dock industry.
In the sense that we have dongles/docks, sure. In the sense of monitors with native USB-c input? These are still fairly rare as the accepted pattern is that your dock has an HDMI/DP port and you connect via that (which actually is a very good pattern for laptops).
As for TVs? I am not seeing ANYTHING with usb c in for display. In large part because the vast majority of devices are going to rely on HDMI. As I said above.
I'll also add that many (most?) of those docks don't solve this problem. The good ones are configured such that they can pass the handshake information through. I... genuinely don't know if you can do HDCP over USBC->HDMI as I have never had reason to test it. Regardless, it would require both devices at the end of that chain to be able to resolve the handshakes to enable the right HDMI protocol which gets us back to the exact same problem we started with.
And the less good docks can't even pass those along. Hence why there is a semi-ongoing search for a good Switch dock among users and so forth.
Regarding the Nintendo Switch, it's because of their engineered malicious USB-C protocol design that makes the console "Not behave like a good USB citizen should". It's less of an issue with the peripherals as a whole.