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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 130 points 3 days ago

Uhg. FTA:

"She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent. This should be a warning sign for MAGAt as they could be preyed by ICE at any time!"

None of that is a reason to believe she's not an undocumented immigrant. And being brown, curly-haired, not-a-medical-worker is not any reason to believe they're an undocumented immigrant.

Is this objectionable behavior by ICE? absolutely. But not because of who the victim is. but because there IS a victim. everyone in this country is protected by the constitution, and afforded the rights of due process- which ICE is flagrantly violating the shit out of.

Can we please stop with the special classes of people like this?

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 125 points 3 days ago

It is important because of the reason they cite.

By going after this woman, they're making it clear to MAGA folk that allowing the rights of minorities to be eroded also removes their own protection. Even racist assholes should be appalled at the civil rights violations being committed.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

And in making that argument, it signals to the racist assholes that the problem being that she's white, blonde and professional, and therefore the rest are fair game.

which as you say, erodes everyone's rights. But that's not particularly important to me. the rights of all are worth protecting even if that weren't true.

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 54 points 3 days ago

I think it is about opening the eyes of the racist ICE supporters that in fact they are not safe from what they have initiated. Even if they cannot make the jump to being decent human beings caring about all people, they usually care about what happens to themselves.

[-] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Yeah and as much as we all hate having to interact with these absolute chuds, the most successful ways of deprogramming people have been through empathetic outreach.

If these MAGA chuds experience the boot of fascism first hand, that might open them up to listening to people from other groups that have had to deal with this kind of treatment for much longer.

It's a slow process, a metric fuck ton of emotional labour, and not everyone is willing to do that work, which is understandable given that you'll be competing against the whole outrage media and "attention economy".

But if enough of us are willing then through genuine human connection, which everyone but a very minute actual clinically psychopathic portion of the population is so desperate for, can get these chuds to open their eyes and grow a little more empathetic.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They'll just say "some innocents will be inconvenienced." Remember they don't understand until they are hurt personally.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

If MAGA people were able to understand the subtext of this event, they'd be smart enough not to be MAGA in the first place. You might as well try to explain to a dog why drinking antifreeze is bad.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Yes, yes, yes! But also, it's particularly notable that she's white and blond with no accent because they claim to their supporters to be protecting those specific people from "illegals." Pointing out that they're not only doing something awful but also defying their own stated principles is always a good thing to do.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 18 points 3 days ago

It makes a point of slapping people who truly believe, even now, that all the ICE activity thus far has been against illegals.

Illegal only. For real. They believe that.

A maga relative in landscaping was mystified as to why half his employees had either left or were leaving and weren’t coming back for the next season. In his words: they’re believing all the lies and hype being spewed by the media.

In his mind, even now, ICE is only doing their job: removing people here illegally. Because media can’t be believed and is filled not with lies but terrible twisting of the truth.

So putting a face on this, that looks like MAGA, is about all that’s left to try to get their attention.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

And has your family started the "well she should have just complied" victim blaming?

[-] TheGoldenV@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Then on with the, “They let her go almost right away.”

“Papers please.”

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago

Who knows. I’m more likely to hear the complaints in spring, about not being able to find good workers any more. My money is on that one.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Whoever wrote that doesn’t realize Canadians can also be immigrants.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

No, they are appealing to MAGA folks that are picturing getting rid of all the dark skinned people they don't like.

The people that consider that nuance have already been against the ICE crap, you don't have to convince those. The only people that can be convinced are those that you need to get their racism aside before they'll join you. It's distasteful, but it's a way to grow the voices condemning this behavior.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I'm surprised Trump has tried to encourage more Aryan immigration. Quebec did this to counter the Muslim immigrant "problem".

[-] prole 1 points 2 days ago

Some of the only people they're letting in right now are white South Africana

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

They're Pointing out to the racists that they shouldn't be cheering this on, because not even they are safe from this fascist shit. Because you know maga assumes they're safe because of how they look and talk.

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

We all know what that's code for. I have never been to the US in my life, and yet as a white European I'd be accosted much less than tens of millions of US citizens.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Next the came for the white, blonde, citizens.

And people continued to do nothing.

[-] Xella@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You're completely right. All this does is fuel more racism and elitism. Unfortunately it is the reality we currently live in. Many people who are MAGA absolutely believe blonde hair blue eyed white people are true Americans and are safe. Pointing out these facts tells them that they're next and that all of this is wrong. Some people won't realize their mistakes until it happens to them personally. A white woman with blonde hair hits home for many of them and could be a wakeup call.

Again I want to say that I DO NOT agree with bringing up this information. I do not believe it should be relevant at all. It is just unfortunate that this is the reality we are living in and I believe we do need to be the change we want to see by not bringing this information up ourselves.

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