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[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Interesting. So like whats the dividing line between 'being given something' and 'taking something'?

[-] jaselle@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

For me, you can't use 'give' if there was no action on the giver's behalf, but coerced action counts as action. Same with take -- you 'take' something only if you're capable of a 'take' action. So if you're in a coma, you can't 'take' anything offered to you (except in idiomatic phrases where action on the taker isn't expected, e.g. "to take abuse").

This is why I seriously believe that OP's image is controversial more do to a difference in our linguistic understanding of the word "give" than do to a differing understanding of the facts.

Edit: I think what may be happening here is the so-called "non-central" fallacy.

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