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[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago

I wonder if the same people who say Steam should pull out of Russia would agree that Steam should also pull out from the US. I mean, that's what should happen given the basis of the arguments being used, right?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If the US opposes values Valve has then they should.

I’m not going to pretend Valve cares about these causes though.

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes. Maybe then people will blame the ones actually responsible. If it makes overthrowing a magat government more likely, it's good on principle

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

Yes. Once the bread and circuses are gone, people will have lots of hunger and free time to ruminate on how hungry they are.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Which steam games have been removed by the US government?

[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

There was the whole thing about payment processors raising a stink because of Steam, which is comparable and I have no evidence Dementia Don simps were not somehow involved, since this was started via some republican christofascist Karen association. But even if that does not suffice it for you, I'm not wondering about to the present situation, I'm wondering about the situation of when (not if) it happens in the future.

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

This had nothing to do with the USA. It was triggered by an Australian group of christofascist Karens, called "Collective Shout," leading to adult titles being removed from steam. Steam already region locks titles, so it would be easy for them to block titles for sale in countries with laws about NSFW matierial. What's unique about this is the christofacists put enough pressure on payment processors to shut down Steam's ability to sell anything in any country. The title pulls weren't the result of government pressure.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

That was done by Australians and had nothing to do with the US government. Stick to the facts.

[-] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago
[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

Well the US is kinda preparing for war with a foreign nation under false pretenses rn. Venezuela specifically.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

And the whole thing where they are trying to dial back rights for everyone but rich white men.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Well definitely that too, I just mentioned the part that's also the pretense in case of Russia. Of course Russia is also trying to dial back rights for everyone but rich men (white is default there anyway).

I can actually say I'm not in the US market myself, largely because of the recent developments - there's a type of incredibly niche enterprise-focused software for a particular industry in the US market only, that I'm very familiar with, could (with help of course) build a significantly better competitor than any of the incumbents, and best of all, the current players all are incredibly expensive, so I could charge half, or even less, and have no trouble paying staff. But I'm just not doing it, despite it being a potential ticket to becoming a multimillionaire later in life.

Trouble is, among the people I'd have to move to the US with myself, and whose help I'd like in the project (so family members who'd live with me and potential engineers to help me), there are some women and LGBTQ folk. We're all white so ICE isn't as much of an issue as it would be for someone of darker complexion, but the whole eroding women's and LGBTQ folks' rights issue would be a problem for those close to me, therefore a problem for me.

To be fair, it would've been extremely challenging anyway. I have connections in the target industry and I've worked towards building an MVP, but the financial aspect of it all is problematic. Money to get certified for a bunch of things, money to hire people because one man can never do everything alone, etc. Can't get small business loans in the US as a foreigner anymore, etc.

[-] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I mean, yeah, but what is the one of a billion things venilia is talking about was my question

[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Just inspecting the double standard often seen in issues like these. Russia bad Amerikkka good etc.

[-] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ok but what is the specific comparison? Russia is to banning LGBTQ games as the us is to banning ___ games?

[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Have you seen the news the last year? Pretty much all companies are cozy now with the Dementia Don administration banning LGBTQ stuff noticeably past simply "games".

[-] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

So you don't have a concrete example? That's fine, but people having vibes about what's going on at any given moment without being able to find a concrete example is literally how maga happened.

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