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[-] felsiq@piefed.zip 16 points 2 days ago

This is so strange to me, because everyone I’ve talked to agrees in theory but has this disconnect when it comes to reality.

Thought experiment: if I’ll give you a cookie, but only if you kick a dog, would you do it?

I’d bet nearly everybody would say fuck no, and probably be at least a little pissed even to be asked. Somehow “making an animal suffer to have a food you enjoy” is wrong to everybody at this personal level, but add enough steps in between the cause and effect and suddenly people are happy to have animals abused and then slaughtered for them to enjoy their meals. Just looking at the response to your comment (6 upvotes and 5 down atm) shows this in action - to anyone disagreeing with @the_q’s point, do you also think kicking a dog for a cookie is okay in my hypothetical? If not, where do you draw the line?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

people are happy to have animals abused

no one is happy about that

[-] felsiq@piefed.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah that’s fair, I probably phrased that uncharitably. People are definitely happy about the byproducts of that abuse tho

[-] fushuan 5 points 1 day ago

Maybe complacent is the word I would use. I agree with you.

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade 3 points 1 day ago

People are willing and able to ignore the sufficiently-abstracted moral hit for deliciousness. Upthread, I commented on someone else with an effortpost, about how they knew about the immorality, and that choosing to turn a blind eye to it and instead be outwardly nasty is bad for the soul.

A lot of people would be willing to take that cookie if you tell them that, in the process of making it and as a requirement, they kicked a dog. That already happened, after all. What would not eating the cookie mean now?

Time really fucks with people on a minute to minute basis. Doing moral calculus while removing the time element is wholly outside of their experiences, mostly.

[-] xep@discuss.online 1 points 2 days ago
[-] felsiq@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Why wouldn’t you want a cookie? Lol

You can substitute the cookie for whatever food makes the hypothetical more relatable to you - is there any food that would make you say yes to the deal?

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