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I'm trying to learn more about EU politics, and when something like this won't die after being beat down several times, in the US it's almost always some industry lobbying organization.
And a problem we have globally, is that there isn't an organized counter movement in the opposite direction (that privacy is a human right, that this isn't a path to security, that states need to be restrained and restricted in their tendencies towards authoritarianism).
Without that countermovement, it's almost inevitable something like this will pass as the lobbying organization can long outlive the current generation of activists or politicians who see the problems with something like chat control.
https://www.corporateeurope.org/en/2025/11/roll-back-digital-rights-prepared-secrecy
Yes, that's the same with many things. No counter movement.
We will see how transparent it all is
https://transparency.eu/briefing-lobby-transparency-in-the-eu/
We have to be the ones that continue building the movement. Plenty of us already are but with each of us active, and getting others active-connected it will help so much. We all can way more in a healthy way get things done. Let's not make it easy for them at all.
Getting people to switch to Matrix, & Stoat for real-time collaboration.
Piefed for overview and more organization by having people doing.
Pixelfed, & Loops by Pixelfed for Live-Streaming Incidents.
Also, to stop them infecting people's minds with their virus
I agree. A proper counter movement is needed.
Big American corporations are heavily lobbying EU council and governments. Transparency is not working, EU council are rolling back on GDPR, massively eroding our privacy, which is irreversible.
With the likes of Trump in charge the US are not trustworthy with any data. The data that they already take illegally is too much.
The UDHR article 12 is supposed to protect our privacy.
We need a counter movement big enough to scare the politicians when they start bending to the Big-Tech. They are not in the least bit worried as things stand now.
Peter Hummelgaard (among others) and his arrogance does not seem even a little concerned about his position.