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Currently Denmark pushing it, they hold the EU presidency at the minute. Their minister for justice - Peter Hummelgaard is responsible for the big push and the wording. Specifically trying to pull the wool over the general public. Ireland are next (they take over in January) And the minister for justice in Ireland (Jim O'Callaghan) is also in favour of it.
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Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights - Right to privacy in the digital age
U.N. - Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Thank you.
But what groups are advocating for this? There is clearly a significant campaign behind this. It doesn't seem at all grassroots.
At a guess, I'd imagine big tech companies are lobbying as most of the information that they use comes from data gathering. Using data directly from texts etc. Leaves them open to court cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/12/eu-gdpr-data-law-us-tech-giants-digital
The options are limitless to the politicians regarding money making opportunities pushing x,y and z through once our private correspondence and devices are being scanned.
For example, in years to come insurance companies could refuse to pay out on all sorts of claims using that data. Doctor may have recommended you walk a mile a day and change your diet. You don't do it, or just miss a day, your life insurance policy is voided. Car crash not your fault, no payout because you missed something else etc.
I couldn't begin to to guess the amount of ways that this information could be used, but it's a complete u-turn from what the EU was saying only a few years ago
https://gdpr.eu/what-is-gdpr/
They still recommend using signal - but only internally.
Which in itself is bizarre.
And exempting themselves from being scanned is just showing what they really think.
I'm trying to learn more about EU politics, and when something like this won't die after being beat down several times, in the US it's almost always some industry lobbying organization.
And a problem we have globally, is that there isn't an organized counter movement in the opposite direction (that privacy is a human right, that this isn't a path to security, that states need to be restrained and restricted in their tendencies towards authoritarianism).
Without that countermovement, it's almost inevitable something like this will pass as the lobbying organization can long outlive the current generation of activists or politicians who see the problems with something like chat control.
https://www.corporateeurope.org/en/2025/11/roll-back-digital-rights-prepared-secrecy
Yes, that's the same with many things. No counter movement.
We will see how transparent it all is
https://transparency.eu/briefing-lobby-transparency-in-the-eu/
We have to be the ones that continue building the movement. Plenty of us already are but with each of us active, and getting others active-connected it will help so much. We all can way more in a healthy way get things done. Let's not make it easy for them at all.
Getting people to switch to Matrix, & Stoat for real-time collaboration.
Piefed for overview and more organization by having people doing.
Pixelfed, & Loops by Pixelfed for Live-Streaming Incidents.
Also, to stop them infecting people's minds with their virus
I agree. A proper counter movement is needed.
Big American corporations are heavily lobbying EU council and governments. Transparency is not working, EU council are rolling back on GDPR, massively eroding our privacy, which is irreversible.
With the likes of Trump in charge the US are not trustworthy with any data. The data that they already take illegally is too much.
The UDHR article 12 is supposed to protect our privacy.
We need a counter movement big enough to scare the politicians when they start bending to the Big-Tech. They are not in the least bit worried as things stand now.
Peter Hummelgaard (among others) and his arrogance does not seem even a little concerned about his position.
Thats why everyone needs to be active with us and get more people moving. The more we do the more we win!! They are already scared that's why they try so hard now.