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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39342270

Well folks, it’s the beginning of a new era: after nearly three decades of KDE desktop environments running on X11, the future KDE Plasma 6.8 release will be Wayland-exclusive! Support for X11 applications will be fully entrusted to Xwayland, and the Plasma X11 session will no longer be included.

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[-] vort3@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

I'm not the OP, but tbh the only thing that doesn't work for me is the apps that replace your input by the same thing in another layout.

For example, you have 2 keyboard layouts, type something and realize afterwards that you forgot to change the keyboard layout. You press the hotkey to trigger a script that removes your input, translates it into a different keyboard layout and pastes it back.

People who only use 1 keyboard layout don't even think about this issue and usually don't know such software exists.

I miss it a lot. There's 1 script that works in wayland but it's pretty buggy and it's not in arch repos, so I don't trust it too much. X11 had many options.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

that's mainly because of Wayland's security model I think, it's trading a tiny bit of convenience for lots more security in terms of things like preventing easy keylogging.

You can still do keylogging in wayland but that has to be done at the compositor or evdev layer, which requires root access or control of the DE, which makes it more secure. I'm sure you could write something in C to do this though

It might be an annoyance for you and I get that, but your small annoyance improves security for lots more people than you realise. I'm sure you can adapt to not using the script though (I also use multiple layouts and I work fine without a script like this)

[-] vort3@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I get what you are saying and understand the balance between convenience and security, however most end users don't care. Their thing stops working and they complain "Wayland bad, my workflow now broken!", nothing you can do.

[-] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 12 points 1 week ago

Right, but the point is that for most end users, their workflow isn't broken.

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