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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.
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Do... do you think he realizes that Debian is "woke"?
Also I wonder what his beef with Rust is? Is Rust woke?
I'm surprised they include systemd and Wayland. Those are usually on the anti-woke Linux hitlist.
I've seen this before. There is a special type of person out there who feels emasculated (yeah it's always men, isn't it) by the idea of a language statically enforcing memory-safety. Because, you know, real men write C or C++ with no safety rope and no seatbelt, juggling with raw pointers and chainsaws with their bare hands. They think that the only reason why C/C++ has produced an infinite abundance of bugs and security holes is because other programmers just suck. But they are different, they can handle it, they are very clever after all. And they won't let some wusses take away their powers with all these ideas of memory safety by design.
As a C++ programmer some Rust people can come on a little strong, as if I've never thought about the importance of memory safety before and don't know how to write secure code (well excuse me for building on top of decades of libraries that no one thought to write in rust in the '80s).
But that's normal programmer flame war stuff. Rust people tend to be young and enthusiastic about security which is all good.
pretty much every programming language discussion I’ve ever been in has at least one person come in with a chip on their shoulder, ready to burn down civilisation in the name of readability or ease of use or memory safety or what have you.
IMO it’s an abyss staring thing; you spend enough time in the code mines and you’ll discover some gleaming orb of fascination. Hypothetically this is cured by grass touching. I have been both places.
That is why I’m proud to announce my new, everything safe programming language: C’thlaglthorp, or Ctt for short.
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People who dislike C'thlaglthorp tend to come in two camps: the ones that prefer significant whitespace and the ones that don't.
I was only describing a specific kind of person, certainly wasn't trying to imply that C/C++ devs generally have no care for security!
Oh yeah I got that no worries.
Rust is the tr*ns language with programmer socks, you see
Linux puritans are as fissile as the OG Puritans. There's already Devuan which is Debian minus systemd, and now with XLibre. Not sure why this nerd thinks his particular non-denominational chapel will bring in the crowds to hear him sermonize.
Edit BTW Devuan for me is the epitome of FLOSS techfash.
it's good.
Rust has a Code of Conduct and is allegedly highly popular among trans programmers, so you're likely on the money
this is very fashtech coded, happy to be proven wrong though.
It is, that's why I was sharing it. I probably should have made that clear.
Looking at their Twitter and it's apparently going to use GNOME. Wonder how that's going to work with GNOME removing X11 support.
It's probably going to just use an ancient version, if this thing ever even gets made.
Imagine devoting your precious life to making MATE for GNOME 3.
Well, at least the website isn't vibe-coded. Considering the creator's an out-and-proud promptfondler (as seen on his Twitter), that's genuinely shocking.
I honestly don't know how these people are comfortable posting those things with their real name and face attached.
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