970
turing completeness
(sopuli.xyz)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2025
970 points (100.0% liked)
Lemmy Shitpost
36009 readers
3454 users here now
Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.
Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!
Rules:
1. Be Respectful
Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.
Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.
...
2. No Illegal Content
Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.
That means:
-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals
-No CSA content or Revenge Porn
-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)
...
3. No Spam
Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.
-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.
-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.
-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers
-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.
...
4. No Porn/Explicit
Content
-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.
-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.
...
5. No Enciting Harassment,
Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts
-Do not Brigade other Communities
-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.
-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.
-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.
...
6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.
-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.
-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.
...
If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.
Also check out:
Partnered Communities:
1.Memes
10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)
Reach out to
All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
If Turing was alive he would say that LLMs are wasting computing power to do something a human should be able to do on their own, and thus we shouldn't waste time studying them.
Which is what he said about compilers and high level languages (in this instance, high level means like Fortran, not like python)
Where did he say that about compilers and high level languages? He died before Fortran was released and probably programmed on punch cards or tape.
I'll try to find it later, I read he said that in a book from Martin Davis. He didn't speak about Fortran, I just used it as an analogy
Fair, I'm mostly just curious what high level languages were around at the time given how early this was in the history of programming. A quick search did not turn up helpful results.
Oh, it probably wasn't about an existing language, but about some guy studying what would become high level languages. Like studying linkers and symbolic representation of programs
Wasn't his ideal to simulate a brain?
Neural networks don't simulate a brain, it's a misconception caused by their name. They have nothing to do with brain neurons
Not what I meant. What I mean is: this could be the path he would go for, since his desire was to make a stimulated person (AI).
LLM are not the path to go forward to simulate a person, this is a fact. By design they cannot reason, it's not a matter of advancement, it's literally how they work as a principle. It's a statistical trick to generate random texts that look like thought out phrases, no reasoning involved.
If someone tells you they might be the way forward to simulate a human, they are scamming you. No one who actually knows how they work says that unless they are a CEO of a trillion dollar company selling AI.