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“Pathetic”: Dems Tear Into 8 Senators Who Caved to Trump on Shutdown
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"We ensured a vote!"
Bullshit. Even if the vote happens, it won't pass, and even if it did, Trump could veto it. This was the one chance to save the ACA and also to really damage Trumpism. The shutdown was devastating to the GOP and the Dems would have won eventually just like in 2019, but instead these 8 traitors are handing the country over when they've just had their only real opportunity to fight this administration.
Fuck them all. Every single one of them should be ejected from the caucus.
They held out for 40 days just to torture ppl who need benefits
Maybe when you lose your healthcare you will understand why they did it.
Edit:
Edited the post to include what I responded to, because it seems people miss the context.
I clearly support the attempt to save ACA. Not the 8 senators that quit.
Are you implying I don’t already need the affordable care act? Because I do. They acted like they wouldn’t fucking cave for 40 days then these 8 go and say meh fuck it who cares. wtf was it all for then?
they more than likely planned to do this anyways.
You can say the same about every lost fight. With that mentality, nobody would ever fight for the right thing. Obviously it was an attempt to save ACA, then these 8 jumped ship, probably claiming the pain threshold had become too high.
It sucks, but you can't say the fight didn't have to be fought.
Dummie this vote just cost me my healthcare. Good job I’ll probably be one of the first 50k dead thanks fuckhead chuck
So why am I the dummy for backing them up on trying to save ACA?
I think people here read my post out of context.
Sure, they held out all that time, so they could get a massive midterm victory, just to completely surrender all their new political capital.
While American citizens see that election as a victory, Democrats don't really see it that way. That was a Progressive victory, and the Dems look at it as almost as big a loss as the MAGAs do. They weren't about to keep holding out, and giving the Socialists another victory to run on 2028.
flights getting cancelled, and atc quitting got them nervous asf.
Well, we wouldn't want any politicians to be nervous, so let's give up our health care so they feel better.
There, there, Schmuckie Chuck, are you feeling better now that you can fly whenever you want, while your constituents suffer and die without health care?
i think they were gauging the democratic wins recently in other elections, they are banking people will forget and ride thier way into the 2026 elections. i think if NYC mayor dint win, they probably wouldnt have forced the reopening so soon. its extremely calculated by schumer, plus he handpicked the people not up for re-election anyways,.
They know it won't pass.
They're relying on the old tactic of them getting that vote, then blaming progressives for failing to get it passed.
They're not evil and old like Trump They're just old and unable to fight a post-truth populist like Trump
They don't understand how important it is to never show capitulation
Do not give them excuses. They were bought out at the very least. They held on this long knowing why, they gave up for probably a monetary reason. Maybe threats, because he's the mob. Threats are the only reason I will accept.
I have seen no evidence for your assertion about monetary compensation.
You're basing your beliefs on tribalistic other-hating, a very post truth thing to do.
Do better. Show evidence.
"Show evidence" is a crap debating technique.
You made this evidence-free assertion in the very same post. Grow up.
You're basing your beliefs on tribalism to justify their actions.
Do better. Show evidence.
They're not confused, they're not cowards, they know what will happen, they are complicit.
If your actions are indistinguishable from evil, you are evil.
There is no way these people don't know how many lives they're going to ruin and end with this vote. There is no way they actually believe they're going to get the ACA tax credits from the political party that let the government shut down over the issue. Functionally evil is the same as evil.
they are capitalists. they are career politicians. they. are. evil. anyone who ever says “the dems and reps are different” is a documented dumbass. this is proof that all parties are effectively right wing.
Of course they're both right wing, but that doesn't make them the same. Angela Merkel and Adolf Hitler were both rightwing chancellors of Germany. It DOES NOT make them the same.
8 crap senators who aren't standing in 2026 capitulated and gave in to the republicans. The rest were standing firm. If there were just a few more dems they could have still stood firm.
If you vote to enable fascism, you are yourself a fascist, regardless of what color arm band you choose to wear.
i’ll have more faith when the 8 change parties
Actually, it turns out 1 is independent and another is already suspended or something.
Anyway, yes, but they can do so much more damage from within, so I think they won't.
I bet they'd have voted differently if they needed SNAP and had to get a "marketplace" healthcare plan.
Our "public servants" cannot represent us when they're a part of their own elite, untouchable socioeconomic class.
THESE are the Democrats that should be uprooted from the party and replaced with candidates that actually represent their voter base.
The fact that Dems has this many spoilers shows you that they aren't really beating the controlled opposition claims.
We need a Democratic Party that fights back. Not one that caves to evil.
THIS is why many people on Lemmy are disillusioned by Democrats. Dems had only positive outcomes for themselves by letting the shutdown continue. They could have waited while Trump fucks the citizenry more and more, deepening their political capital for 2026.
Instead, all of the Dems who aren't facing re-election next year, or have re-election in 2028 or 2030 voted to end the shutdown. These Dems have no opportunity loss for voting this way. Un-fucking-believable
On the other hand the end of ACA will hurt Trumpism a lot, since many of his voters were using this benefit