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You're fine with trading the lives of innocent palestinians to maintain your own comfort and security, you deserve Trump and worse
Lol, no, I'm certainly not. I do what I can within my limited means although I'm sure I could do more. Sadly, just by virtue of voting, I've done more than the majority of my countrymen but I certainly am no paragon of virtue.
I am a realist though. Realistically the Palestinian people would have been better off, or at the least not worse off, with a Harris administration at the helm.
Regardless, the diplomacy would have been carried out by the statesmen in the background if she was in office or Trump - Trump just comes with massive baggage.
"Realistically I had no choice but to be a morally bankrupt coward" lol fuck off
Geez, calling me a morally bankrupt coward is just a tad bit mean, don't ya know? Also doesn't really address the actual real world we're in where we are voting on an office which is making decisions that go far beyond only the tiny part of the world that is Israel/Palestine.
Like I don't know how naive and narrow minded one has to be to think a world with Trump in charge of the USA is better than the alternative.
Like, obviously, if I could waive a magic wand I'd change a whole fuckpile of stuff about our government and our system of living as a whole. Unfortunately, presumably, much like yourself, I'm not magic.
A lot of our friends here have only a mass-media understanding of American politics. And given that mass media is utterly terrible, it’s . . . a crooked understanding.
I don't owe civility to anyone making excuses for the fucking democrats, nothing about the "real world" requires you to accept their complicity in genocide you decided to do that shit on your own
Lol you're such a silly goose.
You stand for absolutely nothing, you deserve Trump and worse
I hope your day/life gets better, you seem very upset.
Lol fuck your fake ass high road act
Yeah man, you don't seem upset at all
Not me. Someone that fucking toxic deserves the torture their head gives them.
Nah, I think a lot of people genuinely just also concern troll and are fake mad. Besides this is the internet, I don't put much stock in what strangers on Lemmy have to say.
At the end of the day it isn't worth worrying over or getting actually upset IRL because some dude has a bad take.
I mean also low-key fuck that person but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's basically what I'm saying. Fuck that person but I won't put emotional effort into it.
Lol @ accusations of toxicity from people still caping for the fucking democrats
Way to prove my point
You don't have a point, you have projection and deflection
Enjoy the next 3 years of Trump... you did this.
Democrats did more to put Trump in power than every protest & third party voter combined, and you're still making excuses for them because you're a spineless moron
I wish these relevant sourced arguments could bring some around, but they won’t in large part because many of these comments are not American voters and just want to vent.
Just like we did when we were kids. Except we live here and we vote.
I was raised republican and you would be even more surprised how completely ineffective this would have been on me in the past. The people that continue to vote republican are so much dumber than you realize. Like find a source that disagrees with them, so they go find new source type dumb.
No, you were just denying and downplaying the genocide when it was your team doing it
I'm not going to do the work for you, but the math is simple:
Would that number have gone down at all if Trump had been president on Oct 7? Only when they ran out of victims, and you know it.
https://nypost.com/2024/10/30/world-news/trump-told-netanyahu-to-end-the-war-by-january-if-he-wins-report/
And just in case you forgot, that was Biden slowing down those weapon shipments that had been congressionally approved long before the Oct 7 attacks. It's been trump that's been unblocking, delivering, and promising more.
Proceeds to present no math and instead a baseless assertion. Biden did absolutely nothing to restrain Israel.
Well now you're just lying through your teeth too justify genocide collaboration. Weapon shipments increased under Biden, he even went around Congress to do it.
No, you were just denying and downplaying the genocide when it was your team doing it.
And this is why the lesser evil argument failed; because Trump winning was the only way you people would even acknowledge what America was doing
Trump is the same for Palestine, he's worse for you and that's the only part you give a shit about
objectively wrong
Anything's possible when you make shit up
"Everyone who disagrees with me is russian propaganda" lol keep losing
Be fair. Centrists were willing to sacrifice everyone's comfort and stability as long as they didn't have to tell netanyahu no.
Lol you're not wrong
Delusional
"Everyone who disagrees with me is russian propaganda" lol cope
"Propaganda is real therefore everyone who disagrees with me is propaganda" you're a mess
Do liberals get paid based on the number of times they copy-paste that particular thought terminating cliche? It doesn't even mean anything here: lots of things can be true
You understand that "can" be true is not the same as "is" true, right?
Thank you, The Villain from dr Strangelove
And it commonly isn't.
This is Qanon reasoning: "have you read any articles about elite pedophiles? That proves that a cabal of satanic pedophiles run the world!"
Good thing you're immune, you've seen through the matrix and risen above the sheeple.