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Reminds me that I often like asking questions I could google because it’s more engaging too
Also, Google turns out seriously shitty answers nowadays, and the sponsored keyword ads are more irrelevant than ever.
Ironically its not even good at finding things to buy. I was trying to find a aur fryer recommendation but all the top sites were toxic and no review sites near the top.
The thing I'm not allowed to say instore: You probably don't want an air fryer. You probably want a convection oven. The technology is exactly the same but a convection oven is larger, giving you more versatility. (edit: Of the products that we sell,) The gold standard is a combi oven. Get some half-decent microwave-safe cookware such as Pyrex, no need to splash out on the premium brands.
I have an oven, a large microwave with a convection oven, and an air fryer. They all serve different purposes.
I use the oven for baking and things like making a full roast (i.e. multiple trays). The convection oven is my "normal" oven as it's smaller but still large enough to do stuff like a massive lasagne (I have a 4 litre Pyrex dish that fits!).
The air fryer on the other hand is amazing for crispy stuff, reheating junk food leftovers, scorching vegetables, and so forth.
The combi oven is not the gold standard. The smallest vessel for the task at hand is.
I own a toaster oven slash air fryer that makes cooking such a breeze. So so much so. I no longer own a microwave.
Oven has a reheat button that I set for 5, 10, 15 minutes. A little bit slower, but so much better
homemade pizza 12 minutes homemade burritos, 6 minutes homemade cookies, 8 minutes.
This includes prep time.
Can you give me your recipes?
Sure, but by the time my convection oven get to temperature I'm already serving at the table with my air fryer.
That's makes no sense at all.
So run a bigger appliance for longer?
uh, preheating an oven still takes time. I could take 10 minutes to preheat my oven, dirty up a tray to put whatever thing I'm cooking on, then spend 20-30 minutes baking it, or I could pop it in the air fryer, use less dishes, and have it ready in 15 minutes
...and a kitchen oven is larger still giving even more flexibility.
Or maybe the reason people find air fryers so useful is because they are small, fast and energy efficient.
I can only speak for the products we sell and precisely zero of them are energy efficient in any meaningful way.
An air frier is energy efficient in the sense that it makes a pizza in 7m total, no preheat, while the oven needs to preheat for 5 mins and then 12 mins of cooking. Size matters a lot in terms of efficiency. Being bigger is not always a plus.
If you live in a region that’s hot, like I do, air fryers are better than conventional ovens for cooking one item to chuck on top of your salad. Air fryers put out way less hot air when you open them, decreasing the likelihood of heating up the kitchen
They said convection
That’s a conventional oven…
Nope. Why be so confident when you are incorrect?
https://www.masterclass.com/articles/convection-oven-vs-conventional-oven-explained
That’s splitting hairs. Non-convection ovens ceased to exist in my country years ago. Nowadays, ovens have fans which you can choose to use or not, but they are now the default, conventional oven
So I guess the reason you're confidently incorrect is you don't care if you're correct. Got it.
That article makes it sound like a convection oven is just a fan oven, i.e. basically any electric oven made since the '90s.
an air fryer being smaller is actually part of the appeal for me! I live alone in a tiny apartment, so all I need is something that can cook single portions and fit on my limited counter space jaja
I mean you are not wrong. It's just that my ovens oven is dead. So I figure I really need something half the size/cost of a oven.
I feel like every search engine is shite now.
I tried searching for a food place near me that has “Istanbul” in the name and even searching for the full name with my town, I was only getting results for restaurants IN Istanbul
It's crazy to me that a younger generation will never know that google was once a good search engine. Like i could just google serial numbers of equipment, or anything that was on it and you would find the part first try. If you knew just a little bit how search engines worked, you could find ANYTHING. now, not so much. I was looking for so many things where i was shocked how bad it's gotten. Like i couldn't even find something remotely close, because google sniffed out a word and would rather sell me something