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My God the fairphone is nice
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Is it a good daily driver for normies? Can you run banking apps, for example?
I read that as "can you run baking apps" and was very confused why you shouldn't be able to look at recipes 😅
Yeah, though I'm using LineageOS instead of /e/, my bank apps work.
If you get it direct from the distributor then it just runs basic Android so there's no reason it shouldn't.
Oh, I thought it was a Linux phone for some reason.
That's the best part, it can run Linux
It runs standard android (Fairphone OS), /e/OS with open source implementation of Google services, LineageOS completely without Google products, Linux and probably more.
Doesnt everybody Need a banking app?💀
No. Most banks have websites, and most of them do most of the the things most people do with their bank. The only thing I think my bank's app does that the website doesn't is deposit a check by taking a picture of it. I use that feature about once a year.
I'm sure some people need banking apps, but I would bet it's fewer than think they need banking apps.
My bank refuses to play ball with Graphene, so I have to use the website. Which is ok, but I have to put in a 2fa code sent via SMS every. damn. time.
I have to put in TWO passwords, then still have to authenticate with that code. I'm convinced it's because they want me to use the app.
In most of Western Europe (where Fairphone's target audience lives) - banking apps are a necessity. You'd find it very difficult to bank without these apps. Not impossible, but still a big hassle.
Depending on location, you need the app for QR-pay services. Very handy if it's available.
Depending on location, you need the app for QR-pay services. Very handy if it's available.
My bank mandates a mobile app for 2FA. I can't do anything without my smartphone, sadly.
What do they do if you don't have a smartphone? Or was this an account that you could only open in-app?
I never use a banking app. I just go to the website if I need to do something.
I doubt the banks in the UK have decent or even functional websites for mobile screens. I couldn't really deal with the frustration of using a half-baked website for banking, given that most of the apps themselves are half-baked too.
Convenience wins for me, I'm afraid.
To each their own. My only point was to count that who i replied to who implied everyone has to use a banking app.
I personally refuse to use apps and if I can ONLY use a service via a smartphone app then I will simply not use the service.
Most of them are OK, I've not encountered any that are unusable though
Off the top of my head I can name one banking institution that solely exists through a mobile application and more and more banks are moving in the same direction, making their conventional websites less functional.
I don't know any bank that actually enforces stock firmware although it's common in the ToS.
Most are ok, but you can check for specific ones
https://github.com/PrivSec-dev/privsec.dev/blob/main/content/posts/android/Banking%20Applications%20compatibility%20with%20GrapheneOS.md
I don't do anything important through the app, but it's convenient for
Why do you feel the need to have a banking app? They tend to be super invasive and can’t do much you can’t do online.
Paying friends, verifying online payments.
Eh, when people say they're 'super invasive' what they usually mean is that they can't run it on their rooted android phone running LineageOS or have to go through various hoops to get it to work. Turns out, banking is pretty important to keep secure so yeah these apps will have checks in place to make sure you aren't faking your location or using a modified APK that they can't detect. I'm pretty happy with that restriction given the convenience of being able to manage payments etc in a decent-enough native app. 🤷🏻♂️
Whatever man. I read the TOS.
In my experience they half-arse it though. For example on GrapheneOS (which is considered significantly more secure than default Android) several banking apps block access because they use some questionable Google Play API which doesn't recognise GrapheneOS.
You joke but being unable to deposit checks without going to a branch can be a dealbreaker.
Checks? Do they still exist?
Americans skipped adoption of Chip and PIN, and they were like a decade late with contactless payments. Their payment systems are laughably outdated.
Ah, that's likely why there are lots of comments about using the website. I pretty much only use the banking apps for cash transfer and contactless payments. Handier to verify by fingerprint than transcribe SMS or other authentication in a browser. I wish it wasn't and websites could be just as handy and I could remove apps. I also wish PayPass wasn't tied to google.
They can be pretty handy. I've paid for a parking ticket with one (skipping a credit card transaction fee), got paid for a car I sold with one, and paid for a scooter with one. Aside from paying rent with checks.
in America
It worked. I only use it from time to time. But 90% of the time its online rather than mobile.
I don't want to mess with big $$ on my phone. Seems like a recipe for disaster.