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*Musk has spent days beefing with politicians over the far-right unrest sweeping the UK. *

Elon Musk could be summoned for a grilling by British MPs over X’s role in race riots that have rocked the U.K. over the last week, as well as his own incendiary comments about the violence.

Labour MPs Chi Onwurah and Dawn Butler, who are competing to chair parliament’s science, innovation and technology committee, both told POLITICO they’d press the billionaire X owner and other technology executives to answer questions about the role of social media platforms amid mounting unrest in the U.K.

Musk has spent days beefing with British politicians over the riots, and is locked in a war of words with Prime Minister Keir Starmer over the U.K's handling of them. Musk on Sunday wrote “civil war is inevitable” in the U.K. and claimed that the response by U.K. police has been “one-sided."

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[-] somenonewho@feddit.org 26 points 3 months ago

Less to the point of the article and more to it's wording:

Why the fuck do they call it "race riots" as far as I can tell there are a bunch of rioting fascists and then a broad group of people (refugees, local citizens and Antifa) trying to defend places or stop the riots. This is not a black vs white fight this fight is between fascism and anti-fascism (or at least democracy)

[-] devnev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

Why do you think it's more fascist or than racist? The political "right" of the UK is incredibly anti-immigrant, you can see that in how they've voted for MPs and Brexit. The racial hate is more noticeable towards brown people, i.e. anyone looking anything from Arab to south Asian, there's even the p-word that comes close (but isnt quite) the equivalent of the n-word.

[-] somenonewho@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago

Sorry I didn't mean to imply that the Nazis aren't racist I definitely know that. For me it's just a different framing between "There are Race riots" (i.e. riots/fights between racial identies) vs fascist/racists rioting because of their racists reasons (and people fighting them in a (self)defense way. I hope I made clear what I meant.

[-] devnev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

I see what you mean, thanks. Maybe of interest, the Oxford English dictionary defines a race riot as "a public outbreak of violence due to racial antagonism", much less specific than your definition which I imagine is America-based, so I think this might be a difference between American and European use of the term.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Most race riots were just group victimization of the minority. See the zoot suit riots where they straight up hunted down brown men and boys, beat them, and undressed them. It didn't historically imply that the minority was the cause and doesn't now.

[-] Kiernian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The word that's the first four letters of a country's name is that serious of an insult now?

I'm a yank so I'm pretty out of touch on this but I was under the apparently mistaken impression that it was no more serious than calling an Irishman a mick or a paddy (neither of which are awesome but don't approach the derogatory ferocity of the T- word for Roman Catholic Irish).

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I would advise not doing that in Ireland. Anyway, yes, p*** has a comparable if not so extreme or long history as the n-word in the UK.

[-] SomeBloke@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Different countries have different insults, simple as. Calling someone a spook means radically different things on both ends of the Atlantic.

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